A forum dedicated to and laser-focused on Heckler & Koch firearms, Heckler & Koch accessories and the owners and enthusiasts that love them! They do sometimes trickle in as GI bring-backs, however, as we shall see. I was without internet for the last month, so I missed this. The Match trigger on the Expert will knock you socks off, it's that good. Match sights, hammer, trigger. The match trigger and sight radius together with excellent design and execution combine to form a nearly peerless piece. I own the Elite. 103-322, 108 Stat. Push the lever down and the index mark points to a red F for FIRE. The tactical, expert and elite come with the same match grade trigger (did look it up I bought and shoot them). The USP is available in nine trigger/firing mode configurations and three calibers. Any conditions. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. 49. I wish they would have made the nose like the Expert then I would have scooped one up. Give us a range review once you've broken her in. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. HK'S EURO-RACEGUNS: THE ELITE AND EXPERT by SAR Staff August 2, 2022 in Articles, V6N1 (Oct 2002), Volume 6 HK created the USP Elite pistol by stretching the Expert's 5.2 inch barrel to 6.0 inches and adding a sleek new target slide. AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. What does that mean? Estimated New and Used Values for a HK USP Elite Values are based on a basic model with no options or colors. *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. Please enter your username or email address to reset your password. © WeaponSystems.net | All rights reserved. Table 2 lists nine of the ten variants based upon published HK data and my own guess as to the tenth. 214855S. They are. For any additional information on any of our HK products call us at 305-252-6677. JavaScript is disabled. The HK USP 45 Elite pistol features a cold hammer-forged barrel with a highly accurate polygonal bore, a patented buffer system to mitigate recoil, a target trigger with an adjustable trigger stop, and an adjustable recessed rear sight. It features a longer barrel and slide. Can't go wrong with either. River City Gun Exchange here has them for $949, not sure about stock level. This can reduce measured recoil by as much as 30%. Excellent - 95%+ condition with or without box. The Mark 23 if you are wanting historical/military significance-go with that. SARP.O. The match trigger is really sweet. So the grip width on a .45 USP is gonna be the same as the grip width on a .45 USP Expert, Elite & Match. Found this elite and expert for little over 1k and hk45ct for about 900. This enhances practical accuracy. I have the ambidextrous safety on my Elite, but have no problem living without it. Which brings us to the subject of this "Battle Royale.". The Experts polymer frame, long and heavy slide, and the recoil reduction systemplus the small 9x19mm cartridgemake recoil a nonissue.Since the Germans commonly use 123-grain FMJ ammunition for accuracy testing, this study used Hornadys outstanding 124-grain JHP/XTP ammunition. Cold-hammered barrel with polygonal profile. It's completely superficial, but I prefer the looks of the Expert over the Elite. In 2023 a new or used HK USP Elite value varies depending on supply and demand. The beatings will continue until morale improves. Make sure you get a thread protector for it to keep from buggering up your pistol's threaded barrel. (IMO) I found no significant difference in their accuracy (in my hand or benched). Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more. Left side view of USP45 Elite. The guns included the FN 509, Glock 17 Gen5, Heckler & Koch P30, Sig Sauer P320 Full-Size, Smith & Wesson M&P9 M2.0 and the 5-inch-barreled Walther PPQ M2. AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own. USP9 9mm 15rd magazine, standard floorplate. The latter spring buffers the barrel as it unlocks from the slide. If the USP .45 is just used for home defense and range, I would have a very hard time justifying the price of the Expert. The innovative recoil/buffer system is also found in the Elite, Expert, and other USP variants. H&K USP Expert 45 in Riverside County No Shipping. Brand new Heckler & Koch USP Elite chambered in .45 ACP, DA/SA with ambidextrous safety and . Uh. This morning was a four mile GORUCK (41 pound pack) finishing with a 1/4 mile sprint (wearing the ruck which places the hip belt over my HK45C worn in an OWB paddle). I'm gonna put night sights on the Expert, so it will be one of my night stand and occassional carry gun too. 1796), which banned the manufacture of magazines with a capacity greater than ten rounds for private ownership. Left side view of USP9 Match. The Elite is ONLY useful for target shooting IMO. 49. Which one of these three would you get and why? I like the trigger so much that I had my full size USP9 and USP40 triggers converted to the match trigger. I too bought the Tactical & then later bought a can. I always thought the elite looked like a retarded dolphine on the nose. Search for hard to find HK USP guns on our user friendly website. Elite for the win! It makes going from gun to gun a much simpler transition. To decock, simply push the lever below the F position to drop the hammer. Good - 80-90% condition (all parts/finish should be original). The 9s use USP mags as well. Heckler & Koch H&K USP Expert V1 9mm 4.25" 15+1 Black Black Steel Slide Black Polymer Grip $ Remove from Compare Add to Compare. They use USP 12 round mags in 45. I wouldn't be concerned with the printed width dimensions. Shotgun Review: The Cosmi Custom Steel Shotgun - A Masterpiece of Craftsmanship and Performance! The longer sight radius of the Elite combined with my progressive multifocals allow me to maintain a more natural and comfortable head angle when shooting the Elite, compared to the Expert. For the children.Presentation of the HK Elite from the holster is facilitated by the fact that the rear of the slide has been milled down to lower the profile of the large, adjustable match rear sight. I own both. You can unsubscribe at anytime. Shot it and a 1911 I own back to back and the Elite definitely had less recoil and stayed flatter. During the development of the Elite, HK took features preferred by U.S. law enforcement and military to design the best target pistol for American shooter. The USP Expert is a variant of the full size USP pistol designed for target shooting and optimized for accuracy. Location: Northern California SF Bay Area East Bay. Trigger is not on a par with a high end 1911, but is still very nice. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. That being said, yeah the grip on the 9mm USP is a bit thinner than the grip on the .45 USP. In the last 12 months there is great demand for a HK USP Elite and most semi-auto pistols. Finally, trust us, ALL THESE HKs, can certainly "plow the field". Box 29009Richmond, VA 29009Phone 804-740-4926Fax 804-740-9599Website www.ccfa.comHornadyDept. I have small hands and must shift the grip of the firing hand in order to manipulate the magazine release with the thumb. [ARCHIVED THREAD] - USP9 Expert vs. Elite. (5) Any mission. 4K Shooting: HK USP Elite and USP Expert 9mm with Merkle Tuning weights LifeSizePotato 209K subscribers Subscribe 940 118K views 7 years ago Putting some rounds through some of my. Source: www.imfdb.org - The grip is essentially the same on all USPs within the same caliber despite the slide length. At Somarriba, Inc. we feature a collection of over 20 pistols including the USP Elite among several other variants of the USP Series. HK pioneered this use of polymer materials in the production of handguns more than 30 years ago. Both pistols are extremely accurate and have a 3.5# trigger in single action. They are both excellent shooters (far better than the standard USP). :wink: A little update, I've decided I'm going to buy an Expert for right now. It is a shooting machine. The Elite also employs a match trigger with an adjustable trigger stop and high-profile fully adjustable front and rear target sights. Most operators with small hands manipulate the release with their trigger finger, which does not require shifting the hand on the grip and has the additional benefit of ensuring that the finger is off the trigger and outside the trigger guard during the magazine change.The injection-molded polyamide frames of HKs Expert and Elite pistols are reinforced with microscopic glass fibers that constitute 15% of the frames material. Both the Expert and Elite accept high capacity magazines (18 rounds in 9mm). HK subsequently stretched the 9x19mm and .45 ACP variants of the Expert to create the USP Elite, which features a 6-inch barrel. The 45s I've seen around 1200 new. And if I'm going to have a long barrel, I want the slide long too, like the Expert. TheStripedPanda69 1 yr. ago Do you think the USP elite is as rugged as a mark 23? The tactical 45 and 40 come with match trigger, the 9mm "tactical" version, called the SD does not come with the match trigger, IRRC. All Rights Reserved. The same goes for 9mm & .40. The prices even on GB seem to be about a grand, which is decent I think for such a high quality pistol these days. Other nifty features include an extractor that also functions as a loaded-chamber indicator, HKs patented recoil-reduction system that is standard in full-sized USP variants, and an adjustable trigger stop. In fact, I sold a pile of Glock Gen 5 9mm to my FFL friend this weekend. Page 1 of 2 1 2 > Thread Tools Display Modes # 2 05-09-2017, 11:36 PM Voted Expert just for looks. Its good to go. I love the trigger, it is stupid accurate, boringly reliable, and has the most usable adjustable sights I have seen for a working gun. The reason I looked at these and not the regular usp is the match trigger. Both will match the accuracy of the 'cookie cutter 1911 Nighthawk'. Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. The slide can still be manipulated (a round can be loaded) with the weapon set on SAFE. It features a longer barrel and slide. Other than a slightly longer barrel, the Elite appears to be a very close sibling to the Expert. For those with the factory match triggershow do we like them? Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more. You can approach the Expert with adding the Match Trigger as mentioned before and can weigh the price of a MT + FS vs the Expert. HK Expert PistolThe USP Expert has been performing very well indeed among European IPSC shooters, thanks in large part to its inherent accuracy and large-capacity magazines. This includes combination double-action and single-action (DA/SA) modes and double action only (DAO) LEM modes. The single action is almost 1911-esque. The new pistol delivered superior accuracy by combining the best features of the USP Match, USP45 Tactical, and the Mark 23 in chamberings that included 9x19mm, .40 S&W and .45 ACP.