William Garretson claimed that on the afternoon of August 8 while hitchhiking back to Cielo, some guy dressed as a hippie, picked him up. He (O'Neill) said nothing to that effect. Grim saidSanders is right.The first Tate homicide report states exactly what Sanders says in your quote. 8. He might have been seated between Jay & Sharon at dinner, being BFF's with them and all.But then, he was Gone With the Wind.Sorry guys, I'm having a hard time believing that someone with super powers like this mysterious guy was so very close to Sharon & Jay, yet did nothing to prevent their murders. He told and then showed where a lot of missing women were. It came out in the Watson trial and it was Bugliosi that brought it out. I do not believe we will ever know the truth. And life just gets more better and more clearer! Thank you, Bunkhouse. Grim said,The most immediate thing to notice is that Hatami only mentions Whitson once and even then, only because he's asked who he came to Bugliosi's office with. This comment has been removed by the author. Eventually he did begin the process of revoking Manson's status. A.F.S., Colonia Dignidad, von Braun, Kissinger, Ruby, and Giancana are some of the major players. Moorehouse said hed lived at Cielo off and on throughout the summer of 68, when Melcher was there. We know that Moorehouse was convicted in 1991 of "lewd and lascivious acts on a child under 14." From RFK Jr's instagram post on Wednesday's death of Thane Eugene Cesar, prime suspect in his dad's 1968 murder:The LAPD unit (SUS) that investigated my dads assassination was run by active CIA operatives. 2. Mr. O'Neil proposes that Charlie may have been used as a pawn to catch bigger fish, this theory alone really makes this story much bigger. And, remember, I'm a skeptic who applied critical thinking to every claim in the book. ONeill got a lot of help for his book from Stephen Kay. Whitson told him that Sharon and four others were dead. That clears things up. Ask yourself what it logically means to have "witnesses that vouch for Whitson's presence in the scene." Ill bet Sanders is correct. William I think Doris saw that flag on the couch a couple of days before the murders. Note the characters involved.FITZGERALD:Are you in charge of the prosecution of the case of People vs. Manson, et al? -Excerpt from Sharon Tate - A Life by Ed Sanders "Hatami told me he has no memory at all of Manson coming to the front door of Cielo Drive, but that the memory was suggested to him by an investigator named Reeve Whitson, who worked for both Col. Paul Tate and the prosecutor Vince Bugliosi." He was also connected with WW II Nazis, especially Skorzeny, construction, the Mafia bosses Trafficante, Giancana, Ruby, he was an ace pilot, flew weapons and people into and out of Cuba, Central and South America. There is more to his background, but I skip to Aug. 9, 1969. I've thought to myself many times:what if one of those girls would have come over and talked with me, would I have "followed-her-around? TJ ? And, if you look at the police reports, there are those who claim to have heard male voices outside hours after Watson, et al. All be told I love a conspiracy book. ZLR 694 belonged to Sharon's Camaro. Scares the shit out of me to think of it. And this has been going on since the start of 2017. If LE and the CIA were so powerful, why didn't they just pin it on the innocent ? Chapters are as followed: Prologue The Crime of the Century An Aura of Danger The Golden Penetrators The Holes in Helter Skelter Amnesia at the L.A. County Sheriff's Office Who Was Reeve Whitson? I have a really good memory because I have OCD, the only good gift from my diagnosis. The purpose behind the plot was to incite terror among white people and put the blame on black radicals. They weren't there particularly long and so people trying to weave the "someone rearranged the scene afterwards" line of thought is onto a loser if they try to utilize the memories of the killers and how they left the scene. There's about a 6 minute long clip on YouTube put up a couple of months ago of Hurst telling the story of delivering the bike to Cielo, he talked about meeting Sebring at the front door when he knocked and dropping Abigail's new bike off in the garage and taking another one back to the store, I'd have to listen again to see what time he claims but obviously the time he gave at the time of the murders is probably going to be more accident since hardly any time has elapsed. C'mon Grim, you know betterThe big reveal was that Danny DeCarlo "ratted out" the Manson crew which was against the biker code.But that has been public knowledge since September 1970.And no, I don't know better. All the other times he is mentioned by Bugliosi.Going back to the point about Whitson suggesting the memory of Manson being the one that Sharon looked at that day back in March '69, Hatami has always been consistent ~ he has no recollection of ever seeing Manson in the flesh. How did O'Neill get the transcript to the book, I heard Debra had it? ,fu A+N@Z"1lOE3I1.fna\Yic8$_vm\Q,Q Z c0#%^;xL`770 8T @/ )X G/ . He had none. Take a person (Krenwinkel) with an IQ just barely in the 3 digits to begin with and add in the hallucinogens, pot and babblings of a man she's in love with (Manson) and you've got a woman operating on a bowl of porridge for brains, katie8753 said "I've gotta say, I agree with Mon on this one. It's the inevitable outcome of the crypic utterances. He was not very intelligent an IQ around 85 he was a savant to murder instinctively knew how to kill and get rid of bodies. And whenever this 'someone' is challenged to back up whatever cryptic utterances they gush forth, they just utter more of the same and bring in other cases not remotely connected.Yeah, I'm sceptical !So, does my Twitter inter-action with George Christie mean nothing to you? 139 0 obj <>stream He didn't "bring" Hatami. In my research into a close friend's father (Elwood "Red" Franklin Williams) that was active in the Laurel Canyon activities back then, I found much of Red's info matched the info on Whitson. Undoubtedly, he would have run into Peter Folger in those years as American corporations and the US government were intertwined throughout that era. I won't accept something just because someone says it. He was very, very helpful. There is a lot more here that doesn't add up. According to Bobby Jameson on his blog, he and his friend Harvey Dareff were at or near the Tate house the night before the murders. I came to your officeQ:You will have to talk up a little more loudlyA Yes. And did he not usually have permission for the few occasions he travelled out of state ? And has anybody seen Bugliosi's OJ Special ("OJ Simpson: 100% Guilty")? I've never heard of this Reeve guy in my life"His name first popped up in the book 'Sharon Tate - A Life' by Ed Sanders, which came out in 2016:"..Hatami testified at the trial that Manson wanted to know where 'somebody' lived - referring to Terry Melcher. But his daughters ? HA HA HA!! I find that hard to believe.In Krenwinkel's first parole hearing, she pretty much said she didn't remember anything about that night except chasing down Gibby.