That kind of belonging is transcendent, and you just feel it pop up in these little moments. Yeah. At a time when so much feels unex Advice to graduates: Just ask questions Kelly Corrigan:Theres a thing Im aware of about eye contact between spouses, and you either make it, or you dont, and once youre aware that thats deeply meaningful, and that it has this kind of almost immeasurable, physiological effect on the other person, then you make an effort to look them in the eye, and that seems like such a small thing, but its actually definitional in terms of your relationship, in terms of whether its a good day, or a bad day, or a good interaction, or a bad interaction. Kelly Corrigan:Now maybe Im going to go to Durham, and now maybe Im going to get my PhD in Divinity. And she said, Kelly, Im going to try to do the Uber to this wedding, and I was wondering if you can request a woman, and I said, No you cant, but you can trust it. We only book nice people who have a sense of humor and know things worth knowing. In this season of "Tell Me More," listen to one-on-one conversations with musical icons like Jewel and Lang Lang, community leaders like Del Seymour, entertainment heavyweights like Constance Wu and Michael Lewis, scientists like Maya Shankar, and more. Kelly Corrigan:Yeah. I really appreciate it. Kelly Corrigan:So, she had to call someone and ask them to come over and zip her dress so she could go to the wedding. I mean so far, knock on wood, Im getting to see my kids be much, much older than she got to see her kids be. Kelly Corrigan:Yeah. Kate Bowler:My life doesnt exactly fit into neat categories anymore. Thank you for this. Id say that there is definitely such a thing as a questioning Christian. (To be fair, Ive loved all that I have listened to). I think people think that if you have a diagnosis, or somethings happened to you that you should know because youre proof of it. Rocky is family, and we dont sell family, I replied. You wrote this book in a season of incredible loss. You are in good company. Thats the word. You know, like it wasnt me. We were living in Damascus, Syria, and whenever one of us asked for something Mom and Dad couldnt afford, Dad would say Allah Kareem. In Arabic, Allah means God. I was wrong, and that is very soothing, but then that took me back to this moment where I had gone to work for United Way after college, because I was going to save the world, and I was this total do-gooder. What a unique family motto! Kelly Corrigan:And I should not lose my mind over a shirt I bought on final sale section that didnt fit even though I tried to pull it over myself, and then it got stuck on me, and I had to cut it off with scissors. Today, Im speaking with New York Times bestselling author, Kelly Corrigan. Phrases like I dont know, I was wrong, and one of my favorites, Its like this. You could do worse than to live by that one. She has been called the voice of her generation and the poet laureate of the ordinary, and she is the most perfect person to talk to to kick us off because her lovely new book is called Tell Me More, and Tell me more is one of those phrases she uses, phrases that she writes about that help guide her through relationships, and parenting, and grief. For a special listener who was just diagnosed, here are some thoughts on the stages of recovery that I encourage you to share with every last person you know who is in treatment for anything. Hosted by four-time New York Times bestselling author Kelly Corrigan, the show dives deep into each guests life to pull out poignant lessons they hope others can use to find their own calling or better understand themselves. You cant only experience deep gratitude at the toenails that you seriously wish someone else would have cut, because seriously, whos doing this around here? Go get mixed up in something. I mean, that was my big experience of your book. Michael Lewis sends his thanks to Dr. Arthur White, a former history teacher at Isidore Newman School in New Orleans, Louisiana, for kicking him in class whenever hed fall asleep. My mom called me maybe three months after my dad died. Kate Bowler:Wow, and thats a big word. Kelly Corrigan:And thats the truth. Dalai Lama XIV, Cheryl, Follow Kate on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook. So, thats just the question in front of all of us. A witty, insightful podcast in search of the big "Yes!" The gap between being inspired and entertained just got smaller. Exactly Archives | KQED News Theyre poking for that critical difference to hold on to, and I wanna hug em, and say, I know. Kate Bowler:Yeah. Kelly Corrigan:Im telling you what, man, you can not believe how much I use this, and you can not believe how still it is not my natural instinct. Im so thankful I could be a fly on the wall and listen in on your conversation. This is the way this has to be, and its right there. Kelly Corrigan:I know, me too. Our family motto: It isnt help unless someone asks for it. Yeah. Kate Bowler:Theres this other phrase, I was wrong, that has real power, and you learned that in a really intense way when your grandma died. I was so mad that I shook the cage a bit, that hamster eating its sibling. Forever? Tell Me More with Kelly Corrigan | PBS She's a podcaster. Like, Im just an ordinary person, and I make all the mistakes that everybody else makes and maybe even 10% more, and then there she was, and what she would have done for the life that I was kind of rushing through, multitasking my way through day, after day, and you know, sort of feeling snappish, and then catching myself, and feeling like I should be different. Kelly Corrigan:You know, that I had lost his favor for a moment, and I was just so ashamed. Her teams look to her for direction, but she wanted to see what would happen if she paused more to ask them questions, and found it totally changed her approach to both her work and family life. Theres a whole world out there happening, and you can step into all kinds of things, and you dont need to know why youre leaving the house. Find me online at @KateCBowler, and Id love to hear what you think of this episode. Join New York Times bestselling author Kelly Corrigan as she choreographs big-ideas conversations with some of the creative thinkers and artists who define our time. Kilpy Kate Bowler:Yeah, yeah, yeah. For awhile, Id say shed been robbed, or ripped off. And then right on the heels of that, I think, What would Liz do for this?. We can remove the first show in the list to add this one. Team Everything Happens, Kate,